How does this happen?
Please explain to me how somebody, anybody does not realize a 14 year old is not the police?
Saw pictures of this kid and ok so he doesn't look 14 but you can't tell me when he had no gun or star, nobody thought twice until 5 hours later? When you think about it, this could have been really bad. What if this kid did come armed with guns, bombs? Scary huh?
Saw pictures of this kid and ok so he doesn't look 14 but you can't tell me when he had no gun or star, nobody thought twice until 5 hours later? When you think about it, this could have been really bad. What if this kid did come armed with guns, bombs? Scary huh?
52 Comments:
At 26 January, 2009 14:49 , Anonymous said...
The district [003] it occured in says it all.
At 26 January, 2009 15:44 , Anonymous said...
Absolutely right. 003 is not known for it's high IQ.
At 26 January, 2009 22:39 , Anonymous said...
yeah and all of u dispatchers, who can't keep up with what car is where are really on the ball.
At 26 January, 2009 22:41 , Anonymous said...
Bunch of haters, sorry we can't all sit on our asses in a climate controlled room & pass out work to other people.
At 27 January, 2009 00:35 , Anonymous said...
You can't be serious with the last 2 comments!
Seriously, this incident REALLY makes the CPD look bad.
Just check out the SCC Blog, and all the 500 negative comments about: 003, the Commander of 003, the W/C, the desk Sgt, the officer that this kid drove around with, etc. etc.
Dont go slinging insulting comments at dispatchers & calltakers for the 2 comments ahead of yours... when your own co-workers have much meaner shit to say about this whole thing.
For once, OEMC can't be blamed for this one.
At 27 January, 2009 01:08 , Anonymous said...
How the fuck can you possibly attempt to cast a light on the dispatchers after this display by your own officers? Get a grip fucko, and while you're at it, clear the fucking job already.
At 27 January, 2009 07:31 , Anonymous said...
And how bout the street stops when we're trying to give you a job....just because you dont want the job....I mean really ....you have a street stop down the street from the job.....whatever!!!
At 27 January, 2009 09:44 , Anonymous said...
It shows the quality of the police they hire here in Chicago. Gee, the kid's 14. Do 14 yr. olds look like their in their 20's? If a kid can pass into a station, who says a guy with a bomb backpack couldn't?
At 27 January, 2009 09:59 , Anonymous said...
Do they give you guys a speech test? Most of those ghetto females on the zone keep talking in ebonics. Or is it those tongue piercings? Blauhba, blauba, blauba.
At 27 January, 2009 11:06 , Anonymous said...
Yeah. They match the dispatcher to the zone.
At 27 January, 2009 12:41 , Anonymous said...
And how bout the street stops when we're trying to give you a job....just because you dont want the job....I mean really ....you have a street stop down the street from the job.....whatever!!!
27 January, 2009 07:31
When its 1500 and I feel a job coming you better believe Im going on a "street stop" or "on view hand waiver" because there is no way in hell Im working overtime. Sorry but family comes first and this is only a job, not my life. Save it for 3rd watch or just sit on it while were in a back-log. Now let me get some event numbers!!!!!
At 27 January, 2009 14:15 , Anonymous said...
we will be able to keep up with all of you soon, welcome gps suckeeeeeeeeeeers!
At 27 January, 2009 14:18 , Anonymous said...
if you wanted to sit on your ass and pass out work to others, then duh you should've been a dispatcher! no don't complain this is the job you chose!
At 27 January, 2009 18:14 , Anonymous said...
these are jobs in the middle of the tour.................
At 27 January, 2009 19:36 , Anonymous said...
Don't blame the whole district because a couple of people i.e. 3rd watch desk sgt, female traffic officer,can't tell a boy from a grown man. Hell we do have actual p.o.'s that are smaller and look younger. That's not to defend them, they f*****d up, but don't insult the rest of us.
At 27 January, 2009 19:41 , Anonymous said...
Bout those street stops
1. how about not burning out the same 2 or 3 cars all day and call some of your girls who has been clear all damn day.
2. Yes, we know you guys want to clear your board, but at 15 min left we don't want that domestic, mental transport, holding the offender,man with a gun, we want to go home on time just like you.
At 28 January, 2009 00:08 , Anonymous said...
And why is is worse if something happens in a police station than outside of one? I get the idea that police might be more relaxed in some parts of their own station, and those parts should be strongly restricted.
But there are officers in constant danger all day on the streets. There is no way that a station is a greater safety danger to working police than are the streets.
Seriously, what happens if somebody walks into an open station with a gun (its happened before in 001, for example already)? Its no more danger to the police or citizens than a person walking around anywhere else in the city with a gun.
Mostly, this is just a bureaucratic embarrassment. No surprise given the huge percentage of merit or otherwise-assisted promotions in the CPD. Probably not a whole lot of qualified supervision in 003, and certainly not more to be expected there than anywhere else. But safety concern? So what???? Its no more a concern to me there than anywhere else. Its not like a police station is a critical facility.
Police officers are critical people, but a station is just another building where police officers happen to be, sometimes.
At 28 January, 2009 03:53 , Anonymous said...
It never ceases to amaze me that these coppers or pretenders step over into our blog and then want to blast us for having an opinion. True, you want to go home by the end of your tour and see your family and most of us want you to do that very thing. However, if that was your wife, mother, child or any other relative that you give a damn about calling you would have that officer lynched for not responding to your relatives call for service @ quarter til the hour.......running around screaming about professional courtesy and crap.
We dispatchers aren't slow, we know about the traffic stops and the reports and other misc. stuff that you do towards the end of your tour to avoid getting jobs and when we can we let it fly. But boys and girls heres the catch, if it means the difference between me taking 15 days and you having to stay and extra 2 hrs......it sucks to be you, I AIN'T TAKING 15 DAYS for not a police officer in this city because you most certainly won't do it for me.
Suck it up, be a man or woman and do the job you signed up and trained for!
At 28 January, 2009 09:30 , Anonymous said...
We dispatchers aren't slow, we know about the traffic stops and the reports and other misc. stuff that you do towards the end of your tour to avoid getting jobs and when we can we let it fly. But boys and girls heres the catch, if it means the difference between me taking 15 days and you having to stay and extra 2 hrs......it sucks to be you, I AIN'T TAKING 15 DAYS for not a police officer in this city because you most certainly won't do it for me.
Just keep throwing that call out there cause when were in a backlog or the usual no car status I will not be coming up to take a job for you. Now give me my event number over the air!
At 28 January, 2009 09:54 , Anonymous said...
We sure notice how you dispatchers all want to run out the door before shift change. You all say, The next crew is here" and blip you gone."
At 28 January, 2009 17:56 , Anonymous said...
I agree with 28 Jan 2009 03:53. Why does this blog always seem to turn into a cops vs. dispatchers thing? The whole point to the thread was to talk about the 14yo kid posing as the police - and Getting Away with It for 5 Hours!
We ARE entitled to an opinion, and of course we realize that the kid would not have been able to get away with it, in every single district in this city. But the point was - He did! and it happened in 003. Oh well. The city needs to beef up security in ALL of it's facilities. For something like that to happen- is a Huge F*&^%# Up!!
As for the 2nd watch 011 copper who keeps saying giving me my event #, shut the hell up, we hear that all day, and saying that here, doesn't make it any funnier, it's annoying.
As for the guy or gal who said :
2. Yes, we know you guys want to clear your board, but at 15 min left we don't want that domestic, mental transport, holding the offender,man with a gun, we want to go home on time just like you.
27 January, 2009 19:41
My comment to you, is Yes, we ALSO want to go home, when it's 15 minutes before the end of our tour. But truth is - shit happens, and in extreme cases mind you, some of us have been tapped on the shoulder, and told we have to stay Mandatory Over Time - which is a minimum of 4 hours. Now granted, we usually get more than a 15 minute notice, but I'm trying to make a point. Sometimes, we cannot go home on time, it's something we have to accept, we all knew this, when we signed up for the job. You and us both.
Also, when it's almost time to go home, we try our best to hold the Bullshit jobs, the low priority parkers, accidents, reports, etc. BUT we cannot hold a Person with a GUN, for 45 minutes until the next shift comes out!!! We just can't do it. We are only following our SOP's which are actually based on the CPD's GO's. And like the other person commented, how would you like it, if it was your family member calling about a person with a gun breaking into your home, and we, as dispatchers held the job til the next watch came out, just so that some cars on the previous shift could go home on time!! That's ludicrous to even suggest!!!
At 28 January, 2009 19:01 , Anonymous said...
You are right it shouldn't be a cop vs dispatcher thing, but the 1st two post kinda set the stage. Yes it's a fact that it happened in 3, but there are almost 300 of us there. The vast majority of us have common sense, aren't dogs,and have been the working police at some time (before Jody & Crump-Hales aka the Burger Queen came to power). We don't deserve to have our IQ insulted.I sure you wouldn't like the entire 911 center to be insulted for a couple of bad dispatchers/ call takers.
At 29 January, 2009 09:30 , Anonymous said...
Hmmmm, but some of us notice you dispatchers seem to like to hammer the same car all night long with jobs. Did this car lock up your babies daddy for crack? So this is your payback? HMMMM, so maybe we see who you be and remember.
At 29 January, 2009 10:38 , Anonymous said...
Why didn't dispatch catch this. Shouldn't you have checked your sheets to see who's on the car?
Keep your once a month unintelligent comments to yourself.
At 29 January, 2009 11:26 , Anonymous said...
Hey 10:38. it's not the dispatcher's job to figure out who is assigned to a beat car. We have no idea who is assigned to a car until we either look at the unit roster or check the line-ups that are faxed to our office. Even then they are not always correct, so to say the dispatcher should have caught this is silly. This error should have been caught at the district level before he even got into a squad car, PERIOD!!! As far as dispatching assignments 15 min before you get off is not our policy. The dispatch policy is determined by the CPD NOT OEMC!! If you have a problem with the policy have YOUR union address YOUR department and get the policy changed. Good luck!!!!!!
At 30 January, 2009 09:08 , Anonymous said...
Talk about impersonating ! And not to change the topic, but I heard the round guy upstairs on the 4th floor again was heard saying eventually he'll be running the place . This guy (JA) again is trying to impersonate the ED. I heard he still represents himself as the Director to various vendors when visiting OEMC. This guy should also be arrested for impersonating an Executive Director
At 30 January, 2009 10:34 , Anonymous said...
We have too many important things to worry about and should not care who was overheard saying what. Let's talk about something that will make a difference on here
At 30 January, 2009 11:02 , Anonymous said...
I apologize, yes you are correct, let's continue on this blog bashing the police again on how they F%$#*d up at the 3rd District.
At 30 January, 2009 11:17 , Anonymous said...
The CPD has their own blog so go there if you have anything else to say about what happened 003
At 31 January, 2009 14:25 , Anonymous said...
careful when you put your personal belongings on the console behind the monitors one of the dispatchers got the shock of her life when she went to pick up her headset and it connected with a half plugged in time clock light show was interesting several cute firemen showed up supervisors running around in circles the electricity burned completely thru the metal headband part of the headset
At 01 February, 2009 01:56 , Anonymous said...
I LIKE HEARING WHAT THE ROUND GUY IS UP TO. KEEP IT COMING.
At 01 February, 2009 10:14 , Anonymous said...
Cops are buffoons. They can't guard shit. And you wish to trust them with an Olympics? It would be a terrorists dream to have the Chicago Police guard the Olympics. Let's power test the lot of them, fire all who can't pass.
At 01 February, 2009 15:48 , Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC
DOES OUR NEW STSTEM PROTECT AGAINST THIS KIND OF BOGUS CALL OR IS IT ALREADY OBSOLETE?
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090201/ap_on_hi_te/tec911_swatting
At 01 February, 2009 15:51 , Anonymous said...
HERES THE LINK
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/
20090201/ap
At 01 February, 2009 15:54 , Anonymous said...
LETS TRY THAT AGAIN...
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090201/ap_on_hi_te/tec911_swatting
At 01 February, 2009 15:56 , Anonymous said...
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/
20090201/ap_on_hi_te/tec911
_swatting
At 01 February, 2009 15:57 , Anonymous said...
FINALLY..DAMN BLOG
At 01 February, 2009 17:04 , Anonymous said...
Cops are buffoons ??? That is the kind of bullshit comments that keep driving that wedge between us cops & u guys. I work in 3 and i am the 1st to admit it was a giant fuck. I bet that if you took 30 seconds you can think of many dispatchers and call takers that are fuck ups too, the only difference is that they didn't make the news. By the way a quick shout out to the 2nd watch zone 7 dispatchers (Elnora, Toni, & Rachelle) much love for you ladies.
At 01 February, 2009 20:31 , Anonymous said...
Here's the scoop on the round guy.
JA did not like when the ED interupted one of his meetings he was having with some vendors in his office. Whats mind boggling is that JA still tries to undermind the ED when he's not looking.
At 01 February, 2009 22:38 , Anonymous said...
Way Clueless Orozco has been tipped about the Round Guy, but he is foolish enough to think he can withstand an assault. Problem is, Way is looking for a head on attack, but the Round Guy comes at his victims from under, over, sideways and behind. You're cooked before you know what hit you. Open your eyes Way. The Round Guy is a devious sob. Never underestimate him. If you do, enjoy your retirement.
At 02 February, 2009 10:44 , Anonymous said...
To our dispatchers,here is a news flash,in a busy district,no matter how many times you repeat it is over the time or how you try to raise your voice to try to make us rush to clear your board,WE ARE ALWAYS IN A BACKLOG.Relax,all the jobs will be done so save all the hooting and the drama because we are in a backlog. Also here is a news flash,the regular beat cop could not care less about your board or your backlog. If an officer is calling for help,the ever famous baby mama domestic over keys can wait. I know some of you will hoot and cry because it went over the time limit and you guys act like the world is coming to an end but remember we will always be in a backlog no matter how you raise your voice or talk fast or whatever.
At 02 February, 2009 20:39 , Anonymous said...
02 February, 2009 10:44,
Hey fool, do you think the hooting and the drama is because we just simply want to fuck with you? Guess again, idiot. We have a whole hierarchy above us that wants the jobs dispatched and the board kept clean. I would like to see you tell your Deputy Chief to take it easy when he/she is looking over your shoulder, monitoring your every move and instructing you to clear the job and get on to the next one. You would tuck your tail between your legs and do as you were told. You would morph from a big mouth to a big "yessum boss" kiss ass in about 2 seconds. Stick your observations and advice up your ass. Fuck you asshole.
At 03 February, 2009 00:35 , Anonymous said...
Besides the fact, if it's not actually written in an SOP, it has definitely been drilled into our heads, that when we ARE in a RAP/ Backlog, we are supposed to keep reading out the pending jobs every 10-15 minutes.... Why? I dont know, we know you're all staying down on your current jobs until the next shift comes out. It's just something we're told to do . There's a lot of shit we have to do as dispatchers that we dont want to do - and only do it so we dont get a CI# for some stupid BS and take suspension time for it. And believe it-- it happens!!
At 03 February, 2009 12:23 , Anonymous said...
02feb2009:2039pm. Asshole? a little sensitive are we?Keep crying about the back log..boo hoo
At 03 February, 2009 19:37 , Anonymous said...
02feb2009:2039pm. Asshole? a little sensitive are we?Keep crying about the back log..boo hoo
03 February, 2009 12:23
You are one stupid fucker.
Since when is there a 2039pm ? If so, then show me 2039am. Goof.
And it's 02 FEB 09, not 02feb2009The month is never in lower case. The whole year, 2009, is not printed unless the whole month, February, is printed, so it is printed 02 FEB 09 or 02 February 2009. You must have been in the remedial PPO class. Dumb fuck!
Also, as 03 February, 2009 00:35 wrote, we are only doing as we are told. If we do not, we get gigged, and your sorry pitiful ass is not worth me losing money or time.
And you are still a fucking asshole. Go take another hit on the pipe, goof.
At 05 February, 2009 07:25 , Anonymous said...
03 February,2009 19:37: Awww poor baby! Rough day on the city wide! 2039 is military time. Sorry,i do not hit the crack pipe. The point i was making that in a busy district we are always in a backlog and contrary to some of you dispatchers,we work our ass off on a hot friday night in the ghetto which with all due respect is a lot different than your nice air conditioned counsel. You sound like a very angry individual who has never worked a day in a busy district.
At 05 February, 2009 14:06 , Anonymous said...
Time for new post seeing as it has gone way off topic for way too long!
At 05 February, 2009 15:47 , Anonymous said...
05 February, 2009 07:25,
You did not originally write 2039 hours, which is military time. You wrote 2039pm, which is not military time, as a matter of fact, 2039pm does not even exist. If it did, there would be a 2039am. Not only were you wrong, but you are too stupid to see your error even when it is pointed out for you! Or your ego just cannot take being wrong or being told you are wrong.
As far as our fish bowl up in here, come on down and sit through a tour with one of my sisters or brothers, not me because I think I would put my foot in your ass. You will see how this job goes and how this place functions.
Yeah we are in a dry, temperature controlled room, but try flying blind at a console managing a ton of cars, manned by p/o's and white-shirts, all ready to tell you how to do your job, some working, some hiding, some playing smart-ass, some with an open key, some wanting to run a name or a plate, with others like the desk and w/c trying to bust in without checking to see what is currently happening on the zone and then getting pissed off when they are not acknowledged, then, throw in an officer in need of an assist or calling a 10-1, a foot chase, a few in progress jobs, all happening with our white-shirts within the same room or hanging over us and all having an opinion about how we are handling the zone, then our fourth floor calling down wanting an immediate explanation as to why we have jobs in the yellow and they have only looked at the CAD and also have not bothered to listen to the air traffic before bothering us while we have enough shit going on. Then we are told to get the jobs out, even though all this other stuff jumping off.
You can drive away from your supervisor, we cannot. You get one or more jobs and are unhappy, while we are juggling 10 bowling pins, 10 hatchets and 10 running chain saws. Drop one, and somebody gets hurt, whether it be a p/o or a citizen, plus, on a lesser scale, I am going to get jammed because I dropped the ball. You can hide out sometimes and get pissed off when I call you because you have been on the same job for an hour and I do not know if you are safe, or I need to give you additional information, or I need to give you a job that is happening next door to where you are suppose to be handling a job. Then you get pissy on the zone because you think I am screwing with you.
Don't get me wrong, I like my job and I am good at it, but it ain't the piece of cake you have conjured up in your mind.
At 05 February, 2009 23:11 , Anonymous said...
Don't get me wrong, I like my job and I am good at it, but it ain't the piece of cake you have conjured up in your mind.
05 February, 2009 15:47
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At 06 February, 2009 12:02 , Anonymous said...
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05 February, 2009 23:11
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At 16 February, 2009 22:51 , Anonymous said...
I love our dispatchers Zone 4.
At 02 April, 2009 02:28 , Anonymous said...
Dispatch does a great job. Hats off to the 3rd-1st watch (Zone 12 and Citywide 3) dispatchers. Excellent job everyday! That's 4real.
KT
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